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sweet. Anything for free with the doubled effect of showing a trivial amount of support is worth the 5 second form fillage. The wait begins.

Conformity, the inspiration of the ill minded.

supporting violence is not the solution to achieve peace.

so sayth you. Put peace loving tree huggers infront of armed to the teeth war mongers and lets so who comes out on top. Muahaha. Im willing to bet that no amount of flower power would overcome the almighty bullet. -_^

Anyways, what would be your solution then qwertz. give them all a slap on the hand followed by a hug?

Conformity, the inspiration of the ill minded.

Once again, we have an ignorant individual speaking on a topic he or she probably knows nothing about.

Supporting troops is not distinctly supporting violence or war.

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QWERTZ: The idea of the tags is to show support for the troops - not the acts or cause. They're putting their lives on the line over there. They're doing something you wouldn't have the courage to do, so keep your fucking mouth shut. You don't deserve the right to speak.

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whoo, qwetz stepped over a line here....get the feeling hed be getting slapped around like a red headed step daughter right now if we were all in person. Its just his opinion fellers.

And for something completely random this oxymoron just popped in my head.... Dont hate, discriminate.

Conformity, the inspiration of the ill minded.

Leave qwertz alone you ruffians. Everyone has a different viewpoint over this stupid war. There's no point in attacking someone because of their opinion.

You might as well be a racist.

• Mr. Wynton [.wyn]
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His opinion is irrelevant to the scope, thought, and effort put forth by Stars and Stripes.

Arznek [arz]
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Well, the military tactics at least.

• Mr. Wynton [.wyn]
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Ouch Arznek, let the guy have his opinion man.

" Everday is a good day Peter, with two scoops of raisins. "

The site is specific - it is aimed at supporting the PEOPLE in uniform NOT the actions or war. I say once again; his opinion is irrelevant to the scope, thought, and effort put forth by Stars and Stripes.


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He can have his opinion all he wants, but when he starts saying negative shit in the scope of our troops a few of which are my friends then we've got a problem.

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Alright, alright. I have to admit, it may have been slightly out of line, I too have a 'loved one' over there, rotting there. But still it is no reason to " jump down " ones throat, if he wanted to be negative let him, does not mean you have to be, to defend all of " us ".

" Everday is a good day Peter, with two scoops of raisins. "

Exactly, my family is a military family and my father's been a soldier longer than I've been alive. Why does it seem that few of us can see this differentiation? Probably because those so called open-minded people are too busy acting tolerant and criticizing beliefs opposite of their own instead of understanding the purpose behind this type of support.

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I can't speak for Arznek, but, I for one, tend to take these matters a bit more seriously because of my life experiences. It's disappointing and downright disheartening to see such a lack of compassion.

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nut you nailed it on the head. This is very serious to me, and it's an unbelievable lack of compassion.

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StrYdeR, thenut, Arznek i apologise for voicing my opinion, it was wrong of me, i welcome back one-sided sensationalism. i stated what i as an individual believe to be true, whether or not it is correct is irrelevant especially on this medium, the internet.

thenut, it should be a matter of conscience not to support a cause not in line with your own interests, the role soldiers play out in their day-to-day career i do not as an individual support as i see it as a false cause followed by a waste of life, this is only my opinion and i represent noone in this belief.

Arznek, have you noticed the 1984 Orwellian theme here, this one-sided argument is over, you ended it.

StrYdeR, john lennon - imagine.

*Claps hands* Beautiful Qwertz.

" Everday is a good day Peter, with two scoops of raisins. "

whoa whoa whoa, exclude me please from that apologie for i was just looking for a bit of humor and or nonsense outta the situation....besides look at my other post :) i love you qwertz. Death to all who oppose.

However, you won me over with your mention of 1984. One of the greatest books ive ever read so much so that i run my life with some of the things ive come to understand from the readings of it. Good man ;)

*Claps hands* *gives the finger* /runs away

Conformity, the inspiration of the ill minded.

Qwertz, I have no intentions of insulting you, but when you make a comment that basically shows you wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire is a slap in the face. This site is full of Americans. Don't insult their family, friends, neighbors who are putting themselves at risk and expect it to fly. Thats why you'red outnumbered and see it as totalitarian

I was seeing red, and i apologize for the harsh comments.

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interesting choice of color. Fits it quite perfectly being as you pretty much ripped him a new asshole. Ya prick!

can we just all get a little group hug action going here.

/starts group hug

Conformity, the inspiration of the ill minded.

Interesting choice of color, indeed.

glad that's all settled. i love you guys *followed by non-emo tears*.

Arznek, from this day forth i will refrain from one line comments, it seems to get me in alot of trouble as it comes very potent when read. i understand there are many Americans (all on high-speed internet to be noted) who are members of this community, i speak for noone other than myself but would it be fair to say to resolve this argument and come to agreement in that "war is a waste of life"? i mean nothing negative just a rational statement (i don't want more blood on either side spilling over again because of me *wheew*).

StrYdeR, your random-ness is valued in many ways, just like the water-melon pig we never know when you may have come in handy.

I can understand where you might associate support for one thing and group it into another but let me try to help you understand the difference here.

It's like supporting a racist friend, even though you might not support his ideas and the theory behind why he's racist he's just a good friend to you and thats all that matters.

Me posting a link about supporting the troops which equates to brothers, mothers, sisters, fathers, aunts and uncles being sent into harms way for something they might or might not believe in but they are still doing thier duty anyway is in no way saying I support the war and ideology behind the war.

I SUPPORT THE TROOPS and thats that. I have relatives there so your words are basically like spit on me, the other members who have family members there and all the troops who have been sent there.

No one is saying that you cant have an opinion but if you see where posting an opinion such as that might cause a backlash then I suggest using some form of self restraint.


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Considering all that has been said, I'm in the armed service, I'm overseas and, I have to listen to and read about how people hate or highly dislike us for what we do. Just about 1in 5 people in our great country has said something discreditive about us and our leaders when they DO NOT know or understand, or want to understand for that matter, what we all have to endour over here. Now dont get me wrong. I believe in the constitution and what it stands for, but if you dont like the way things are ran and u dont appreciate us for what we do for u, GET THE FUCK OUT; go move to France . You have that right . A right that people have fought and died for as well as the right for you to speak your mind. But when you do, make sure you know who gave you that right.

And for all of you that support us, THANK YOU. Our prayers go out to you too.

Death solves everything. No man, no war

And thats how good our army is. They kick ass, smoke some foos and still have time to kick back and haunt the custo forums.

Conformity, the inspiration of the ill minded.

I don't dislike what the armed services do, I dislike the fact that they have to do it at all...

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"So... you're telling me to blow something up... to divert their attention from the other thing I blew up?! Brilliant..."

"...but if you dont like the way things are ran and u dont appreciate us for what we do for u, GET THE FUCK OUT; go move to France . You have that right . A right that people have fought and died for as well as the right for you to speak your mind. But when you do, make sure you know who gave you that right."

I'm an American, and I'm opposed to the war. I disapprove of the way things are being run in the current administration, however that doesn't mean I will run away.

It's silly to say that one should leave the country at the point one complains - I would say that voicing a dissenting opinion is more conducive to progress. Afterall liberal democracies are fundamentally about protecting minority rights and promoting a market place of ideas. Telling those of us with opposing opinions to leave the country is both anti-democratic and shortsighted.

If people didn't rise up against slavery, minority oppression, etc. then would America still be what it is today?

At the same time I hold great respect for those in the armed forces. I realize that the things they do to defend my country, my rights, and my welfare are invaluable. But what good are rights if they there is no room to exercise them? The founders of this country, those who have defended it, and those who defend it today fought and died so that we could EXERCISE our rights.

Therefore, I and many others, will stay and express our opinions even if they conflict with what seemingly is the majority opinion, in order to make our country a better place.

Since the US already has a spotty military history with Vietnam and the previous Gulf conflict you can't honestly say that anyone who signed up for the armed forces prior to the Iraq invasion didn't know what they might be potentially getting themselves into. If I were in the same situation as the tens of thousands of troops over there I'd know full well that it would be because I made the concious decision to enter into it.

"I agree to fight for whatever fucked up cause the current administration is fighting for, no matter how hairy it gets."

Sign here: __________

Vietnam wasn't "spotty". We won every major battle in Vietnam, yet due to overwhelming pressure we withdrew without using our full military power. In fact, the last time we did that was 1945. This ended up giving us a "political" loss rather than a military loss - engineered right here at home.

Everybody is allowed to have a dissenting opinion. If you simply disagree with the means, motives, or justification for what we are doing in Iraq, you are free to voice your dissent in a democracy. Just the same, you can't say somebody is being anti-democratic because they disagree with your opinion. As you have your rights, they have theirs. Each person who speaks their mind must maintain responsibility for saying what they choose to say - if it's unpopular to speak out against the war, for example, you can expect a backlash. That's just the way it works.

"A right that people have fought and died for as well as the right for you to speak your mind. But when you do, make sure you know who gave you that right."

Gotta love those Founding Fathers of ours.

To clarify I didn't mean spotty in terms of winning or losing, but spotty in terms of appropriate political interest. Victory means nothing when we're talking about if it was moral to even step in.

Vietnam managed to fight off the Japanese after WW2, and then the French afterwards to gain independance. Then the US decides to walk on in and assert themselves to protect their interests. It was a case of "Oh-noes, big bad communism might spread throughout Asia if we don't do something about Vietnam." Enter Invasion forces, pre-emptive stylez. Sounds familiar, no?

Lol, I missed these kinds of threads.

" Everday is a good day Peter, with two scoops of raisins. "

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After the treehuggers came in on this the topic has lost focus.. again it's a link for people to support OUR TROOPS not the war, not the people backing the war and not the ideology of the war but SUPPORT FOR OUR TROOPS! thats it..


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