interent explorer or mozilla 1.6?

I use firefox.

http://www.customize.org/list/firefox

almost everyone here uses firefox or firebird. or any mozilla browser for that matter.

-I don't not have no idea

www.mozilla.org/firefox -- and have been doing so for over a year now.


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www.bertelsen.ca -- 1beb

is it way better than iE and faster?

Firefox.

If you just want to replace Internet Explorer, you don't need Mozilla. (It includes e-mail handling, HTML editing, IRC chat, and other features.)

Downloading Mozilla to replace Internet Explorer would be like replacing a butter knife with a Swiss Army knife.

Gonna double post. :)

Yes, Firefox is much better than Internet Explorer. It blocks popups and other advertisements very well, and is very easily customized. There are also numerous extensions (plug-ins) for Firefox that add many features (such as mouse gestures). In my experience, page rendering and download speeds are slightly faster in Firefox than in Internet Explorer.

where firefox might be faster and render better(all good things) it sure as hell isn't as easy on your system resources as IE is. *gasp* at least in my experiance firefox and moz are both very memory hungry compared to IE, but then again when you've got more than 512mb ram that isn't and shouldn't be an issue.

Stay Frosty!

Even with 512 pc100 ram you can run FireFox without any problems.

FizzleFox

Proverbs 19:96 -- Custo helps those who help themselves... use Google

firefox --> ad blocking and tabbed windows... those alone should be reason enough to switch

FrostedFlames
Customize.org Staff
Submissions

once you do tabbed browsing you'll never be able to go back.

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Mozilla Firefox:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox

Skins:
http://www.customize.org/list/firefox

darksheer [ds]
Customize.org Staff
Business Development

firefox rulez!

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I stick with Opera. Firefox now and then when there's a site that doens't work well in Opera.

You can try Avant though, if you want a tabbed browser without some of the extra things that Opera and Firefox have. It uses the same rendering engine as IE.

Try Avant Browser, an upgrade to Internet Explorer. Avant Browser is a fast, stable, user-friendly, versatile multi-window browser.

http://www.avantbrowser.com/

Never had a problem with IE. As far as Firefox, I use it as well. It's always been slower in my opinion, but it looks nicer and the tabbed windows are a big plus. I've just never been able to argue with the speed of the IE engine.

Firefox is based upon the source of Netscape's Communicator / Navigator suite if i'm right. i've just shifted over a couple of days ago and all my java - css scripts have shat themselves ... navigator has a strange language to work with, other than that it is the best. and the only reason i moved over was for TABBED BROWSING!

www.lifeonarchive.tk

Firefox!

____superman used invisible strings to fly

qwertz: you probably coded all of your CSS for Internet Explorer, which has improper support for CSS.

Firefox, on the other hand, has proper support for CSS and .png files as well.

As does Opera.

Firefox and Opera both also give you the option of installing the Java stuff.

CSS support is getting to be really important as more and more designers are moving to CSS based designs. Personally, I design for Opera/Firefox and add in whatever hacks are needed to make IE display properly.

IE needs to catch up or it's going to lose out. IMO, of course.

avant browser

i use firefox, but with the 'firesomething' extension. so i have it set to be 'mozilla spacemonkey' instead. =) google it.

Before - IE....
For 2 years now - MOZILLA Only! Current version - 1.6
And never - Opera, 'couse this is stupid silly browser with huge quantity of mistakes inside....
Baaad JS support, terrable CSS support, etc, etc, etc...

Only red crocodile (MOZILLA) rules the world! :)


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While people mention tabbed browsing and the popup killer (which are very good reasons aswell) for me the major reason i've switched it's the loading speed that i find it A LOT faster.
Oh, and about the memory eating that some mentioned, atleast with tabbed browsing, i don't know about any memory eating at all. Just the normal.

Memory eating? The only memory eating browsers do is when you open 30+ windows.

I've used opera and firefox, and opera personally is a little more customizeable, sits in the same position every time, and will always open new pages (from irc clients, for example) in a new tab, not a new window like firefox does.

Also, don't start bitching about "OMG FIREFOX USES 3MB LESS!" because if you have to worry about how much memory your web browser - which has to put as much memory in as you make it - takes up, you shouldn't be on the internet anyway.

[If you have no prejudics at all, you don't seem to mind murderers, rapists, theives, terrorists, drug dealers, and other evil people, right?]

Dogbert, you can make Firefox open the new windows on tabbs using an Extension called "tabbrowser extensions". Search for it on the official extensions webpage.

Opera still has awful CSS support. Firefox, on the other hand, has excellent CSS support. The only thing Opera has on Firefox is that there is no "Copy to/Paste Note" extension.

If somebody would PLEASE devise a note system for Firefox that works exactly like the one in Opera does, I would be in heaven.

IE all the way!

Woe to those who do not hail Microsoft, for thou shalt have compatibility problems...

If practice makes perfect and nobody's perfect, why practice?

Opera has awful CSS support? perhaps you should try looking at data and tests before speaking. or else you're coding too much for IE.

all of my CSS code is completely standards compliant and IE is the only one that screws it up. =]

i use firefox, but not for its lame tabbed browsing.
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enjoy yourselves, bitches. it's a celebration.

Oh wow... I just downloaded Mozilla 1.6 not 5 seconds ago... huge difference from IE. SOOoOOOO much faster... yeah definatly get Mozilla.

hm ... as most visitors to my site are firefox / mozilla and IE users. how can i cater for both ...

www.lifeonarchive.tk

Depends on what kind of site it is. Everything is relative.

+| he who will kill the god if given the slightest chance |+

www.GIFT333.com

Qwertz/Narco,

There's thing thing called the W3C, where HTML is written to a standard that is viewable on all browsers. If a page only looks right in IE, typically concocted in Frontpage, then the author has damned said page to non-W3C coding.

I've been a user of Mozilla since its v1.0 release back in June 2002. I then went to v1.2 in November 2002 and stuck with that until 1.5 came out. However, 1.5 seems to save my JPEGs with double-extensions, so I tried out the newly-released 1.6 which resolved the problem.

Popup blocking is reason enough to switch browsers. I'm not too fussed over tabbed browsing. Forcing a minimum font size (visually impaired) is another good reason. IE does something similar where you can ignor font sizes completely, but it renders the pages ugly.

I like the system in keeping bookmarks and the history as one file, as opposed to IE's favourites. You can even set the bookmark as your homepage, because it is simply a HTML file.

Monstoday, you rule. i'm going to code the entire site to comply with W3C ... dam, thats going to take awhile. shit. oh well nothing better to do than school, scripting, chicks. thanks man.

www.lifeonarchive.tk

Everyone should be writing code to comply with the STANDARDS.

Do you realize how ridiculous is it is that Microsoft made IE handle broken ass HTML? Do you know why they did it? Because of Frontpage. They made frontpage kick out some horrid HTML and they needed IE to be able to view it to push frontpage.

Here we are several years later, and they've totally destroyed the web. Malformed code....do you realize that if you wrote malformed code in ANY other language you'd get a fucked up page or nothing at all? It's absurd.

But, people are starting to finally fight back. They want a web that works no matter what, they don't want to have to deal with ugly hacks anymore. Web developers are seeing pages grow out of control just to keep up with all the hacks to make it look right.

Enter proper CSS support. Mozilla has it. Firefox, which is basically a far superior front end to the mozilla (gecko) rendering engine, has it. Opera has it...somewhat. And IE? IE has perhaps the absolute most bungled CSS support on the planet. To this day a ridiculous bug exists in MS' CSS support...the way width and padding are handled.

So now you ask: can my site be beautiful and conform to standards and use proper CSS at the same time. Hells yes it can, and here are some resources to get you started:

http://www.alistapart.com
The definitive web developers guide for those looking to embrace web standards.

http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns/
CSS Zen Garden
This site shows off tons of layouts that are 100% CSS. The HTML used is the exact same for every layout, no changes were made and if you view the source, you can see there are no tables, no extraneous line breaks, none of that crap. The layouts are entirely composed of CSS.

darksheer [ds]
Customize.org Staff
Business Development

Proper CSS support? I code my page in CSS and it looks the same all over... I'm probably missing something deeper, though. Is there some parts of code that just doesn't work or something? Any screenshots?

[If you have no prejudics at all, you don't seem to mind murderers, rapists, theives, terrorists, drug dealers, and other evil people, right?]

definately firefox

ive been an ie user for a loooooong time now, im running on a p150 with 48mb o'ram. Yes ie is faster but firefox is way sweeter: skinable, faster and so many other reasons i dont really need, yeah it takes a bit longer to load but its worth it

Dogbert:

Head over to a list apart for some detailed information on IE's CSS lacking.

Off the top of my head:
IE does not properly handle width and padding. CSS specs say that width should have padding ADDED to the sides. IE puts the padding inside the width

IE does not support :hover for all block elements as specified it should.

Just a couple off the top of my head.

darksheer [ds]
Customize.org Staff
Business Development

use firefox or mozilla , the firefox is more light. the mozila is great, I use this. the netscape is maybe the same of mozilla, but with many spyware and others craps.

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Panik

darksheer: Ah, understood now. It's funny watching people use IE with basic HTML. Sad, but funny at the same time.

[If you have no prejudics at all, you don't seem to mind murderers, rapists, theives, terrorists, drug dealers, and other evil people, right?]