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heroin says:

turned one of your wallpapers in for an english project. my bad but i needed the A. =)

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06:33 pm, Saturday, September 27, 2003 (5 years ago)
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Max says:

not cool.. if only your teacher could bust you now

Don't make me use uppercase...

06:44 pm (5 years ago)
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gear says:

Actually Max, what wouldn't have been cool is if he just didn't say anything about it. You should commend him for admitting it.

"I shake my pickle at you, sir!"
...gear

06:55 pm (5 years ago)
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MaddDadd says:

definitly not cool. at least when i was in school i handed in my own shit and failed with dignity.

06:56 pm (5 years ago)
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merkurixx says:

color me confused, how did you turn in a wallpaper for an english project? what ws the project?

06:59 pm (5 years ago)
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gear says:

I'm guessing he used it as a visual aid for something.

"I shake my pickle at you, sir!"
...gear

07:05 pm (5 years ago)
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ViperGlyph says:

i just majorly plaigerized according to my teacher, I STILL SAY I DIDNT DO IT........argh........

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07:31 pm (5 years ago)
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Kultrax says:

well if he asked the author and he said yes then he can do whatever he likes, now if he didnt then he can be accused of copyright with his school and probably get expeld

07:55 pm (5 years ago)
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Its neither cool to do it or to admit to it. Why even say anything?

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08:03 pm (5 years ago)
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agentpyro003 says:

yeah, what they said...

pyroTECHNIQUE

08:06 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

what the shit!

fuckin' a there is no reason for that. i hope you had to explain my name being on the graphic. I put my name on the walls descretly for greater ease of use not so you can rip me. Its shit like this that makes me want to submit walls with my name huge. or maybe just submit letterboxed versions of all my graphics. Its one things to do but another to brag about it on a forum. im pretty sure i would gut you like a fish if i saw you right now. i expect too much from you.

safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

10:05 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

the little smiley face really pisses me off. if i don't see a full fucking page apology from you im going to do my best with the admins blessing to get you banned.

safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

10:08 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

and don't pretend like you didn't expect me to bed mad!



safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

10:10 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

why don't you tell me how you used it. was it the whole project? or just a sample graphic?

and did you say "wallpapers" with an S!?!

lets say im generous and charge $28 an hour...now since you gave me no credit..you claimed ownership...so maybe more then just $28. Now multiply that by an average of 6 hours a wallpaper by lets say 5 wallpapers. that what...around $800 bucks?

why don't you try to explain your self.

safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

10:15 pm (5 years ago)
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shocks says:

ouch.. heroin you will be Hunted Down by Sir.. he looks pretty mad.. you better start explaining ;)

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10:19 pm (5 years ago)
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gear says:

Woah don't shit your pants over it. Not that big of a deal.

"I shake my pickle at you, sir!"
...gear

10:21 pm (5 years ago)
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tomcorday says:

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

10:31 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

mmm we are all amused.

seriously not cool tho. and im surprised more people aren't outraged.

anywho...im done ranting and await your response.


safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

10:35 pm (5 years ago)
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agentpyro003 says:

i think wonkus has every right to be pissed...he probably did a load of work on those walls...

pyroTECHNIQUE

10:43 pm (5 years ago)
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hash says:

um, first off the kid needs to be banned. Secondly, I've already started with my amauter private investagator skills into finding out as much as I can about herion. Any and all info I find will be handed over to sir wonkus. I seriously think we should find this kids school and contact them. This is how rippers start. Once they are confortable with the fact that they can steal someones work and gain from it, they wont ever stop. Bullshit to the highest degree.

I also apologize for my spelling or any of that shit, im so high I can't even blink without taking 5 seconds to open my eyes and my right hand is about completely fucking unusable. Punched the cooler at work after having it out with my assistant manager. My middle knuckle is about 3 times the size of the rest of em, and its awfully squishy.

[gear] my dick is indeed 3x, if not more, of my toe

11:07 pm (5 years ago)
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gear says:

lmao, this is ridiculous. You're going to try and get him banned when he turned himself in and none of you would have had any idea he used the art if he didn't say anything? Talk about an asshole thing to do.

"I shake my pickle at you, sir!"
...gear

12:53 am (5 years ago)
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Flintsilver says:

I'm with gear on this one. I'll give him credit for admitting it. No, he probably shouldn't have done it, but it's not worth going crazy over. I don't think you have any right to get him banned, because he didn't violate anything based on the terms of this site. If he took your work and claimed it as his own, that's pretty low and it is reprehensible. However, I'm inclined to at least hear him say what precisely happened, because he didn't say so well.

And don't think I'm soft on people or anything like that. If you give people a chance to talk when accused, they'll either exonerate themselves or incriminate themselves. It's common to find people who say they're innocent come off as the guiltiest people alive when given a chance to speak.

01:23 am (5 years ago)
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yeah, he turned himself in, sure...

...expecting us to all have a laugh about it. it's not like that was a heartfelt "i understand that what i did was wrong" apology, that's a pal-sy "sorry dude, i drank the last beer" kind of apology.


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01:45 am (5 years ago)
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Bluntedsmurf says:

i see both sides on this issue. i used a wallpaper on custo for a cover on an essay I did. i did try and contact the author and after getting no response from him i just credited him for the work in the citations and put it in anyway.. it fit perfectly and i thought he would be kinda flattered.

as for this situation he said it was a english project so im guessing he used it for a cover or something. english projects dont get A's for covers but it does help to look professional.

sorry wonkus but it does seem like you are overreacting a little but i do understand your position. going about banning him does seem like a little much. i think if you talked to him and got the whole story it might comfort you a little.. just my 2 cents

02:07 am (5 years ago)
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mojomonkee says:

it doesn't sound like he did it for the cover of a project... he said he turned it in for an english project, like the wallpaper WAS the project.

makes me wonder how often this happens nowadays.

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02:45 am (5 years ago)
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Bluntedsmurf says:

well.. its kinda pointless to sit here and guess the circumstances. my point was how can an english project just be a picture. thats all

04:39 am (5 years ago)
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Slit says:

wonkus my pretty ass

05:38 am (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

i can't belive you guys!

what about the HUGE hoopla after people get ripped...and thats when they are just posting it..they don't really gain from that. This kid took several wallpapers and gained from them.

im sorry that i actually showed emotion on this other wise emotional desolation. then take flack for being pissed that some one is stealing my things when they could probably have just asked and then give me credit and then get the same grade.




safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

07:20 am (5 years ago)
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SteV says:

Don't get too hang up on this case sirwonkus. Yes he has ripped your work but at leats he says. And he hasn't released it online or something only used it for school. Banning or something therefore I think is absurd. He should have asked you and given credit but hey it has happened.

Maybe see it from a different side. When your art gets ripped it at leat shows you you are a good artist and that's also what heroin a bit says. He likes your art. Don't make fights about it, it isn't worth.

07:28 am (5 years ago)
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wonkus i'm with you

>>myself can't afford softwares that could be described as a nice second hand car ...so i look to the internet

07:45 am (5 years ago)
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Another vote for Wonkus. Get that asshole banned.

07:58 am (5 years ago)
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hash says:

"Maybe see it from a different side. When your art gets ripped it at leat shows you you are a good artist and that's also what heroin a bit says. He likes your art. Don't make fights about it, it isn't worth."

ROFL.... no, it means he stole it. Plain and simple. And gear, he didnt turn himself in, he simply stated that he stole it. No apology, no asking for permission. But whatever

[gear] my dick is indeed 3x, if not more, of my toe

09:04 am (5 years ago)
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Amplifried says:

I can go into the police and say I stole a car. I don't have to apologize for it, but they will still arrest me. What an economy sized douche bag...

09:08 am (5 years ago)
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Mr.Wonka, i agree that bastard should be banned...

09:13 am (5 years ago)
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Flintsilver says:

That's asinine. I don't agree with stealing or ripping, but he certainly wasn't indignant about it. He didn't say "fuck you all, I stole this wall and there's nothing anybody can do about it," because he would just be another asshole. He didn't do that.

Consider this - he's in high school or college somewhere, and he has some sort of assignment due that either 1) requires a cool-looking visual aid or 2) requires a professional-looking wallpaper-type image AS the project. In either case, if he plagiarized Wonkus' work, he should be penalized accordingly in the class. If he credited him, that's fine unless the image is the whole assignment, because he didn't do anything but steal.

I for one wouldn't care if somebody took an image of mine and used it for an assignment, credit or not, because they DID credit you in some way. Him coming here and saying he took it was either a sign that he felt bad he took without asking, or a sign that he's really dumb. I see no reason to suggest that he's trying to piss anybody off.

Nobody has any kind of right to use somebody else's work as their own. There are implied copyrights, and plagiarism is a big deal in school. However, given that it's an English assignment - likely for high school somewhere - there's next to no harm done.

09:20 am (5 years ago)
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hash says:

its the principle of the matter dude. Who's to say someone doesn't see this shit and this kid some how benifiets from it. As far as his high school is concerned, THEY think he created it. He just opened a door for himself without earning. Thats my point. oh and amplfried, do you even think before you type? Or do you just spew this bullshit out for giggles?

[gear] my dick is indeed 3x, if not more, of my toe

09:30 am (5 years ago)
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Flintsilver says:

He benefits anyway because he's getting a grade. If he just took it outright and started making money, getting job interviews, things like that, then he should pay for it. If it's just a grade in English class, it's much less of an issue. It's dishonest, but it's no big deal. There's a difference there.

And he came here to tell people, specifically Wonkus - that he used his work. I can't think of any good reason why other than that he felt bad. If he hadn't said anything, what are the chances anybody would know? That still wouldn't make it right, but I give him credit for admitting it. Hell, OJ still says he didn't kill Nicole. The Ramseys still say they're innocent.

09:43 am (5 years ago)
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O.o good pont flint...hhmm now that i think about it that way it isnt that big of a deal...hhmm

09:48 am (5 years ago)
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niller says:

WTF??

To sum up the only two saine points made here:

1) He doesn't sound like he felt bad at all
2) Stealing is stealing.. doesn't matter if it's in the real world or in school.. he's getting credit for something he didn't do.

On the other hand... banning him probably isn't going to do shit... it's not that hard to create another account or just not log on and download the work of others. He should admit he stole it and get an F.

10:09 am (5 years ago)
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ekzibit says:

The decisive word from the horses mouth is still to be heard - heroin, step up to the plate sonny.

11:17 am (5 years ago)
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vip3r says:

hate to be an ass, but he never actually said he didn't give wonkus credit.

turned one of your wallpapers in for an english project. my bad but i needed the A. =)

you can assume he didn't from his tone, but still, this is the internet, tones are misunderstood.....

and by saying "my bad" he may just be indicating that he didn't have enough time to ask wonkus, and pretty much assumed (sir wonkus is a nice guy) that he would say yes.

but we can't really say anything until we get something from heroin.

12:03 pm (5 years ago)
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ViperGlyph says:

this all depends on what actualy happened
1.he used it AS the project
2.he used it WITH the project
3.he gave credit to the author.
4.he didnt credit.
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and the first hting he should have done if was planning on using a wall from here, he should have firstly gotten* strict permission from the author.
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i see no probs if you are going to use it as a cover or visual aid for something like "The development of art nowadays" or something like that, but you dont take credit, and you get permission....

or even if you plan on being a sack of crap and stealing others work, at least dont say you did.... if someone asks if the're fat, and you lie and say no, do you go back and say "HAHA, my bad, i meant to say your a pig".

and adeu.


"Lets see potato salad!------->"

12:29 pm (5 years ago)
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Sonic says:

sirwonkus has every right to be pissed, but no one can point any fingers at heroin yet, he hasnt stated what happened. i think he only took one wall paper
one of your wallpapers
and it's unclear as to whether he gave credit or not. i will say i agreee with wonkus , he has the right to be mad. but keep in mind...innocent til proven guilty. and i dont think heroin should be banned until he shares his side of the story. although after reading all these posts and how mad people are, he will prolly change the story to sound like a good guy. he was stupid enough to use it without asking, so im sure he'd change his story.

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02:38 pm (5 years ago)
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agentpyro003 says:

a murderer doesn't get spared death row just by admitting the crime...imaging if that did happen, and we'd all be dead...just because you admit something doesn't save you from the consequences, it only clears your conscience...

pyroTECHNIQUE

03:38 pm (5 years ago)
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Fenris says:

two points:

1. heroin didn't say if he gave any credit/indicated in his project that the wall was or wasn't his.

2. there was no permission asked and has been no explanation.

all of you guys have to realize that, when it comes to english classes now days, there are many different types of projects that kids have to do. sometimes a teacher will ask their students to turn in a project discussing a piece of art, other times, they'll ask for a 'visual' paper (ie, a piece of work done in a medium OTHER THAN the written word). until heroin tells us, we won't know what it was.

as for the plagerism...well...the teacher and school won't count it as such if he did credit sir wonkus. if, however, he didn't and they find out, he could be in some serious trouble. it doesn't matter that the images on custo are here for anyone to use free of charge, if he took credit for the work, then it's plagerism. these images are NOT clipart or stock imagery that you are allowed to use in your work without express permission or crediting the artist/author.

i encourage heroin to step forward and clear everything up as soon as possible. and, until that time, i am reserving my judgement on if he did take the image and claim it was his own. however, i do agree that he should have contacted sir wonkus privately about this matter.

04:17 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus says:

im thinking on all new releases by me will just have my real full name on them. and maybe ill delete old walls where i think my name could be to easily removed.

safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poisen devils, see they don't give a fuck about you, like i do.

04:25 pm (5 years ago)
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HaNDICaPED says:

this thread is stupid and heroin is pretty damn stupid for starting it too. he should've gone to sirwonkus and not all of custo to clear this up...

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money costs less."

05:02 pm (5 years ago)
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heroin says:

hey all, didn't mean to make such a big deal out of all this, i probly should've just IMed the wonkster.

let me clear a few things up. first off, im not going to lie about anything because it really wouldn't be worth it. as tony mantana put it "i own two things in this world my word and my balls, and i don't break either for anyone." or something like that.. .

now let me explain the english project. it was to create a graphic example of something that represents you.

i should tell you that i'm fairly lazy and waited untill the last minute to start the project. and like i said, i needed an A in that class. so instead of putting in my own effort, i took one of wonkus's wallpapers (the building one, forgot what its called) and edited a few things.

i left the name intact, but erased the line along the top and added something more personal.

i never really claimed the wall as my own but if the teacher asks i will tell her that i made it.

for those of you saying i should be banned and comparing this to murder quit being such drama queens. i really don't see how theres any harm done. it's not like im submitting it in an art portfolio to college or something, i only turned in an edited version for a 25 point english project.

sorry if im not articulating myself well, i'm in a bit of a rush. if anythings left unclear please ask.
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05:05 pm (5 years ago)
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-blurred says:

why hasn't herion replied at all to these accusations?

a while back, I used the whody's way wallpaper -blue version- for the background for a poem. I never actaully asked hermik for his permission, but i did give him full credit and the URL for this site. but that had absolutely nothing to do with my grade, i just thought it went with the poem rather nicely. however, i think im with wonkus on this one, because this guy hasnt said anything since the start of this topic yesturday.

~.blurred:" :ambiguos illusions:

05:17 pm (5 years ago)
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-blurred says:

oops never mind that

~.blurred:" :ambiguos illusions:

05:18 pm (5 years ago)
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SirWonkus... dont go too overboard and start deleting your stuff. I do agree with you though, this is complete BS.

I have never thought about using someone elses wallpapers and claiming it as my own for school, but now that heroin admits to doing it, i wouldnt doubt that there is a lot of people out there that do it. Unless there is someone else in your class who visits the site, your not gonna get caught. It sucks that its like that, but there isnt really anyway to stop it. Users of custo need to have character and most do.

Im dumbfounded to why heroin would even mention publicly on the site that he did it though...

To people who think it isnt a big deal, it is. Stealing from someone and claiming its your own is wrong.

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05:19 pm (5 years ago)
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-blurred says:

wait, he doesnt sound sorry at all, and the wall WAS the project

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05:19 pm (5 years ago)
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Fenris says:

well, heroin, if you do get caught (because there are teachers who DO check to make sure that stuff isn't plagerized no matter what it is) i really don't feel sorry for what will happen to you. my best advice to anyone who does this is that, if asked, own up to it being someone else's work...heroin, you should own up and tell your teacher if they ask you. let them know that it's by someone else and that you did some stuff to it to make it more your own.

05:30 pm (5 years ago)
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darksheer says:

Well, that's it. We gave heroin a chance to state his case and he did..poorly. I hope that you do get caught, plagarism IS a punishable crime.

Heroin will be banned and this thread locked to prevent further arguing.

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05:35 pm (5 years ago)
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ViperGlyph says:

yeah, ive made my descision, hes a dick.
he "will tell her i made it if she asks".
and im personaly throughly peeved by his remarks and attitude, ive stabbed people for less, serriously, just ask for the persons name and number and he'll vouch for me.

oh btw, im hunting you down nutsucker.

"Lets see potato salad!------->"

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