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sport865 says:

Dear WallPaper artists:

I don't make wallpapers, but it doesn't take an expert to notice a reoccuring error that has stricken this community for years now...

After you make your stunning graphic(s) for the main Wall image, DON'T SLAP ON A BUNCH OF TEXT/LINES. It's a one way ticket to RUINING all depth that you may have intended, and usaully ends up as the major flaw of a prospective wall. If you really feel the need to sign your wall, do it in extremly light text at the bottom... Little boxes and bullets that point to meaningless areas in the wallpaper just downgrade quality also.

P.S. Think of a title for your wall that is in some way relevent to the actual work. I know it's tempting to bastardize "big" words with incorrect consonant usage, etc... but it's a let down in the end. KTHX - sport

01:08 am, Saturday, June 15, 2002 (6 years ago)
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penaduny says:

shut.....up..

01:10 am (6 years ago)
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echo fx says:

Are you creating all those walls? I DON'T THINK SO!!! It's personal...making a wallpaper. They add what they want and were and how they want to add it. The name is also a personal choice. Most people make their are to express what they are feeling or what they want to get across. That's what art is, and for you to post here telling them what to do is immature and stupid. If you had half the sense of what art is all about you would understand.now as penaduny put it... "shut....up.."

::: when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. :::

01:19 am (6 years ago)
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echo fx says:

wow...look at all the typo's :X

::: when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. :::

01:20 am (6 years ago)
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flashback says:

hahahaha actually, he's right, at least somewhat. I think what he's addressing is BAD typography, which comes across exactlly as he said. Good typography is getting harder to come by these days, in fact not many can pull it off, it usually is just overlooked though. Anyways, he's also right on about the bastardizing of walls with big ridiculous words...

01:24 am (6 years ago)
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digger says:

this is completely personal opinion...

01:28 am (6 years ago)
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Sw1tched says:

true dat digger

- Sw1tched, the s3x

01:13 pm (6 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

lol penaduny.

http://www.customize.org/details/14938 -nimda otsuc!

01:51 pm (6 years ago)
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Max says:

just this quote alone "Dear WallPaper artists:

I don't make wallpapers" makes me say this person's opinion deserves no second thought in how "I" choose to design my work. Put in some time before you critique a person's submission sport.
your criticism has no weight, thats for the artist and other artists to decide so untill you submit something here so others can see your work, and tell you how they feel about it, just put a lid on it already!!

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04:06 pm (6 years ago)
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New-B says:

ill put what i want where i want it.
ill "bastardize" it as much as i want too.
ill make wallpapers, and you wont.
if you have problems with this, screw you.

~| the things you own, own you |~

05:19 pm (6 years ago)
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sport865 says:

The majority of the the posters on this site don't even know what art is. Personal expression has gotten so ugly these days... Anyways, if you're going to posts walls on here, be prepared to accept criticism. Don't reply to this post giving me definition of expression, and writing "you can't say anything because you don't create walls" is as weak as the words you're trying to convey on me. I enjoy coming here, and I'd like to continue to experience quality wallpapers, but sadly the site looks like it's turning into a huge mixing pot of trite, uninspired, unfinished, "hehe this is cute" crap that I personally am sick of (Deviat Art). Like it or not, this site will eventually become a desert of tedious filth if some "quality control" isn't applied. This is my opinion, blunt as it is, it's criticism from a consumer point of view. It's about time huh?

-sport (rant)

08:59 pm (6 years ago)
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digger says:

as i already said... this is completely personal opinion you stupid fuck.... what you may think is not 'quality' someone may like... and you do not decide what is art and what isn't... god damn fuckface, have some respect... everyone doesn't think the same as you do...

09:03 pm (6 years ago)
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status says:

Uh... first of all, how can you be a 'consumer' of wallpapers? They're free. If anything, you're a user, and sites like this are typically for developers to exchange ideas.

Second, a lot of people LIKE trendy stuff. Get over it.

Third, wallpapers are not art, and customize is not an art site. It's a customization site. Developers here are more hackers than artists, and the emphasis is on functionality.

Fourth, if you're going to post a scolding essay on "the scene today", maybe you should have something to do with it. What have you contributed beyond slam reviews?

Fifth, don't compare this site to deviantART. It's not deviantART. Besides, dA is a LEARNER'S community where novice artists hang out and hopefully better their craft. Don't expect every submission to be museum-worthy, and don't pick on dA. ;P

Sixth, read your reviews. For someone who's high and mighty on 'art over design', you sure do bash a lot of good art.

Seventh, if you're going to post something like this, you'd better be prepared to accept criticism. :P

Oh, and finally, shut... up...

09:17 pm (6 years ago)
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status says:

To rephrase and spare myself the obvious retaliatory post, Third, wallpapers are not ALWAYS art. There. Saved someone an argument. :)

09:20 pm (6 years ago)
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Sw1tched says:

I'd say 75% of the work here is excellent, whether its trendy or not, then another 15% for beginners strutting their stuff to become the next Phyre Arm or Shinters, the last 10% is just misc, that could either be called crap or just different. To say that this site will turn into a "mixing pot of trite, uninspired, and unfinished crap" is a completely unfair statement, and if you don't want to see it go in that direction, once again, why don't you make something "original" and blow us all away

- Sw1tched, the s3x

09:20 pm (6 years ago)
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PhYrE ArMs says:

whoa whoa whoa wh000a on some wallpapers typo really makes the wallpaper shine, your right some people get carried away (

10:22 pm (6 years ago)
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Max says:

save our doomed site with your wonderful artwork sport.. we would love to give your ultra superior works of art the scores it so greatly deservs.. send us a submission. we all know you have mad skills hell you post a good one so back it up.

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11:01 pm (6 years ago)
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Max says:

deserves* lol got carried away.. gawd see how excited I am about seeing your work sport... c'mon drop it on us already.

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11:03 pm (6 years ago)
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sport865 says:

Dear digger: you have nothing to stand on. dig yourself a hole, and "shut.. up.."

Dear status: wow i don't know where to start...
FIRST: Segmenting a shallow post into 7 mini-sentences of DAMNING EVIDENCE isn't a plus. I
hope you don't represent the community :( :( :P
Your post was comprised of the irrelevent key notes that I already covered in my previous post, and indirect off-topic crap that I never touched.
I encourage criticism, as long as its "coherent".
Would you rather complaints be made in the form of 'OH FUCKITY FUCK FUCK, I HATE THIS SHIT SITE AND ITS SHIT!!! (insert racial slur).'

Please don't post again, thank you.

11:06 pm (6 years ago)
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digger says:

i have nothing to stand on... i stand on the fact that what you are saying is an opinion... i must say, you are quite the idiot...

12:12 am (6 years ago)
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temp3st.xe says:

sport, you seem determined to piss all over other's work just because you 'can'.
It is sadly, your god given right to say whatever the hell you want, even if it may harm others, simply because its your opinion.
(http://www.customize.org/details/14464)

if ur like this all the time, good luck with life fag. cause not many people are going to like you :>

12:24 am (6 years ago)
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colossus72 says:

Start paying us to make papers for you, and we'll leave off or put whatever you like on them. I accept Pay Pal and personal checks. ;-)
http://www.customize.org/details/14938 -nimda otsuc!

12:49 am (6 years ago)
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sport865 says:

95% of the work on this site is just plain crap. Oops, there goes my opinion again! Expect a lot more criticism on your walls from me. Personally I don't care what you think about me or my posts, as you can choose not to care about mine. Just don't get all hissy pissy when it happens.

Oh and I made a wall... (MSPAINT) but it got deleted I think.. DOH :( I think it was after someone posted that hideous emotion wall that was riddled with bad prose and cut/pasted flowers.

11:54 am (6 years ago)
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boogieman says:

Well, I won't be "Segmenting a shallow post into 7 mini-sentences of DAMNING EVIDENCE"
but I can segmentmy post into 7 of my own special mini-sentences.

1.penaduny: "shut.....up.".
2.echo fx: "shut.....up.."
3.status: "shut.....up.."
4.GOD: "shut.....up.."
5.Custo Admins: " shut.....up.." (I'm sure they?re all thinking it)
6.sport865: "shut.....up.."
7.boogieman009: "SHUT.....UP.."

that about sums it up.

oh, wait, about you bashing temp3st.xe's wallpaper. He put EMOTION into that. He took what
he was feeling and made it into a piece that reflected those feelings. If Jackson Pollock hadn't had
so much emotion behind his paintings, they would just be paint smears on canvas. (although some
people may argue that they are just that, I dig em? anyway)

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04:19 pm (6 years ago)
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boogieman says:

strangely, 2 of my approstrophes are question marks... go figure...

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04:21 pm (6 years ago)
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mojomonkee says:

sport, your counter-arguments are terribly formulated. all you do is take what your oppenent says and try and make it look stupid, but you don't really have any evidence (as per your critique of status' post).

take your circular high school logic back to the clubhouse buddy because no one is buying it here. all of your points have been counter-argued by the members here and you don't have a leg to stand on.

06:42 pm (6 years ago)
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status says:

Umkay, asking somebody who just disagreed with you not to post again is kinda arrogant. :P

And no, thank god, I DON'T represent the site (Otherwise the tagline would be 'your definitive source for blurry stuff' ;D), but I don't think you represent the userbase. :P

Also, I had eight key points. You don't seem to have noticed the words "shut" and "up"... from anyone...

08:04 pm (6 years ago)
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nsomneia says:

i want miriku back . . .

10:53 pm (6 years ago)
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temp3st.xe says:

sport has issues :x

btw: boogieman, its not my wall XD

11:06 pm (6 years ago)
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boogieman says:

my bad :-S

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10:48 pm (6 years ago)
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ekzibit says:

nsomneia seems to have issues too.

03:37 am (6 years ago)
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sport865 says:

My counter arguements? This post began as a rant, and became a rolling ball of stupidity as each of the custo-zins stepped up and tried to take a swing at me for my honest criticism. I defend myself and my post from shallow shots much like yours. By the way, with my circular high school mentality, can point out your blatant contradiction mojo? Your entire post :( DOH

12:31 pm (6 years ago)
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digger says:

so sport, what exactly were you trying to accomplish with this thread...? did you want everyone to change how they make a wallpaper to suit your tastes... or are we all just misunderstanding you? still, however, i do not understand how you say that half of the people on this site do not know what art is... is art only what you want it to be and if it doesn't match your exacting specifications you consider it 'tedious filth'? once again, i scoff at your stupidity and ignorance...

01:04 pm (6 years ago)
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Max says:

well said digger, well said

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01:24 pm (6 years ago)
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Wynton says:

if you don't make walls, what's your big deal with how people make em? Like Digger said, nobody is gonna change because of you. perhaps you should start makin walls the way you like em- because people ain't gonna change because you want em to...

01:40 pm (6 years ago)
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Wynton says:

...and what you do is not critiscism, its "i dont care what you think about me so i'll be a buster" just chill out man. that attitude wont get you anywhere at custo

01:44 pm (6 years ago)
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sport865 says:

My exact specifications no, LOOSE rules called "grammar" and insight/comments on depth work? Wow digger, you're a brick.

03:16 pm (6 years ago)
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Wynton says:

hey sport are you sure you dont belong at
www.lifeisretarded/because/idont/haveanyfriends/because/iama
/bigloser?

03:21 pm (6 years ago)
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boogieman says:

Now I just feel sick reading about this. Nothing anyone says or does will keep assholes from being assholes, so I give up. Kill all the "I hate screeshot" posts and be done with it. Sport is trying to be like the Eminem of Custo. Raise a little controversy over something everyone was pretty much fine with before, and attract alot of attention. "They point a finger at me, so i point one back at em, but not the index or pinky, but the one you put up when you don't give a... " Thats all this is now, a mud slinging argument over nothing.

I'm done

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07:48 pm (6 years ago)
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Max says:

its dead now... everyone knows sport is a loser so lets slowly kill the thread and no revisit it..... no one respond to his responses

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08:27 pm (6 years ago)
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sport865 says:

Yeah woohoo, my attention quota from the customize.org children has been satisfied...

my next topic will probably be titled "Literacy for Dum.. Customize.org users"

10:32 pm (6 years ago)
 
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