Just wondering how do you guys feel about drugs as a stimulant? I'm talking about marijuana, shrooms, lsd, and similiar. Not Cocaine or Heroine. I'm not trying to start a "DRUGS ARE BAD THEY TURN YOUR BRAIN INTO SWISS CHEESE" thread, nor am I trying to start a "WEED RULES!" thread. I'm just curious as to some of your opinions on them, and even share some experiences.
I think I've seen a post like this before but i cant remember.
drugs are very very good. Acid Is very very good. Shrooms are wonderful. Bud is heaven. Cocaine is also very very good on marijuana (cocoa puffs). As for the other drugs. I would not know. The other drugs i:e Heroin, Crack; etc are very very bad, drugs that consume your whole humanity and stop you from accomplishing daily tasks are not recomended.
So Remember kids, Bud, shrooms, acid, cocoa puffs good. Crack, Heroin, Pcp, LSD, angel dust, BAD
Drugs are not stimulants.. They are a way of life. When one habitually smokes herb (like me :) or does other things (Methanphedamines, Coke, LSD, Heroin, Opium, Morphine etc.) they are always in a constant state of attempting to get some more of that drug, even if they are not addicted, because it is what they do daily. Not one day will pass when you wont think about smokin a nice fat blunt stuffed with a couple grams of delicious dank chronic, yet when used recreationally (as opposed to habitually/chronically [no pun intended]) as a stimulant and not on a daily basis, the effect could be quite profound. Think about the first time you got high.. (and I know all of you have at least once! especially if your making all these cool 3d pics :) .. anyway, do you remember how it felt? It was probably an amazingly different feeling from your regular life, perhaps even to a psychadelic level, in which your mind reacts to the poison of the drug in a soothing, peaceful manner. The same goes for even harder drugs.. although they all work differently.. and are all equally fun.. yet some I would never recommend trial of.. Namely anything from the Opium Poppy (morphine, opium, heroin) or any sort of pill (ecstacy not included... I would recommend that one despite its risks.. it truly is an amazing experience)... Well, anyways.. Im ranting again. Hope you enjoyed my drug seminar. :P
weed,herb whatever .. is good for me for one reason.. clears my thoughts.. i think i might be bi polar or something im allways randomly thinking everything at once.. when i do some erb then my mind is clear and i seem to work better. of course that could be all state of mind.
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heh...spring is comming...more sun, light, positive energy... (I live in Poland, in central Europe...) Today my friend says:"I'll be have some mushrooms. How about little trip?"
I like work with psychadelics. From time to time little trips're really very good, refreshesh my mind. Generally drugs aren't so bad and if you take it with some kind of respect, and no so often (eg. evry week) you can enjoy it :))
goddamn the american government for pushing that fucked-up cannabis-propaganda upon the world - thanks to you, it's still illegal to smoke a tiny, innocent joint!
i live in norway, and we're having a national debate about the decriminalization of cannabis - but stoooopid as the norwegian politicians are, they have to follow O'big Uncle Sam's example, and label all weedsmokers as gutterslut addicts
sorry, no offence to all americans - i like you, but i hate your politics
I had my days, but the craziest I get these days is a strong cup of tea in the a.m. or a glass of wine on the weekend. I think a little experimentation is healthy, and a couple of mind altering binges here and there (i.e. shrooms, lsd) can indeed awaken some interesting things within yourself.....but if it becomes a habit or a lifestyle it's not good. They are not something to base your life on. I think grass has a cumulative and unhealthy effect on the ego/mind if used habitually over a period of years...paranoia, lethargy, and maybe a little bit of the crazies. Nothing beats a sunrise after a night that lasted years.........;-)
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Hey Fedrlpunk FxCK YOU! I smoke weed everyday. Everyday I light up a phat blunt, or toke my bong. What gives you the right to say that we are losers? I guarantee I make more money then you by slanging drugs then you do by sitting on custo all day looking at pics. I Still goto school, I still goto work, and I STILL SMOKE BUD! I GET ALONG FINE EVERYDAY. GETTING HIGH HELPS PEOPLE CONCENTRATE, WHY ARE YOU SO AGAINST IT? BECAUSE YOUR GAY ASS WANTS IT BUT CANT GET IT?
....and also, the U.S. gvmnt pushes it's anti cannabis agenda because pot changes the way people think, and they can't have anyone being too different....I mean, look what happened in the 60s, everyone got high I realized that the United State's "coercive diplomacy" and "police actions" were just nice ways of saying "shooting and burning unarmed poor people"
In the eighties, when we were engaged in more "coercive diplomacy" in Nicaraugua and everyone was snorting coke and getting rich, no one cared.
So in short, basically the United States will aid drugs entry into the U.S. if it just makes people dumb, hyper and selfish (coke) if it makes people relax and think a little differently, they'll put Joe College in jail for having a joint.
This is all just my opinion/theory of course.
-++I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams ... glitter in the dark near Tannhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like tears ... in rain. Time ... to die.++-
There seems to be a few deluded people around here. If you want to do drugs, fine go ahead. But understand one thing. Drugs will not make you more intelligent.
They may help you to relax. This may ease your mind and help you become less stressed. People under stress do not think clearly because their minds are on other things. I find it very unusual to think with clarity on one subject. I am constantly juggling ideas and concepts, and from this randomness comes my inspiration, whether that be artistic or otherwise. My intelligence comes from immersing myself in knowledge and experience. I can learn nothing from drugs.
in some sence giraffe there is alot you can learn from certen drugs shrooms for instance are good for spiritual trips for your own self if you do it right you can learn alot about your self that you never knew before and go on with a better sence of what is around you and how your body and mind react to things. .. but blah i know nothing.
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rush68 I don't speak from a lack of experience. I have used marijuana, mushrooms, coke, morphine etc. I found them mostly inneffectual. Coke only made me a little more chatty. Either I don't allaw them to work, My body won't allow them to work or everyone else is being duped by a placebo effect. I suspect the first. But really, I know from experience that I don't need drugs to reach an epiphany.
I may get flamed for disagreeing, but I recomend staying away from the stuff. I know many people that got burned, so I heed thier advice.
I'm also very anti-corperation, and drugs are a pretty bad coorp to me. Ever see that one commertial about where drug money goes? Not a pleasant thought.
80% of the world's cash is controlled by 10% of the population, or something like that. Most all the money you spend eventually ends up there (corps, the stupidly rich) anyways. Doesn't matter if you're buying saltines or AK-47s.
-++I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams ... glitter in the dark near Tannhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like tears ... in rain. Time ... to die.++-
i too can speak from experience. i never reached any life changing epiphanies while high on anything. i've only gotten to know and like myself the older i get.
but damn, those days were fun. :) camping trips will never be the same. but i also don't miss those days at all. i find most of my interests have all changed along the way.
Well PHW you are a fucking moron... You just admited that drugs run your life and that you are addicted. I bet you could not go one month without them. Drugs are mind altering chemicals.
I was going to stay out of this conversation until I read your shit.
My dad does pot, or if you want to call it erb, weed or what ever and even he admits its one of the worst things he ever started doing, and he lights up everyday. My step father does pot to, and he has the same opinion, just wait till you are older you stupid moron.
Now if anybody flames me over this I will flip. Ok I am only giving my opinion. Yes I believe weed is alright in recreational use but daily use is not that I mean like once a month max twice a month, anymore than that and its chemical abuse.
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oh and yes phw, i just saw your post and you are a fucking moron... some of my best friends do drugs and thats fine, but i still tell them how stupid they are to their face. drugs dont do you any good, if you need them to concentrate, then your fucked up as it is, its called A.D.D. and you should go have that checked out. and your telling me that im stupid while your out blowing your money on that shit and i spend mine on useful shit.... its people like you that are the reason i posted in the first place. and well if you want to talk about making money, i wonder if you "erb" could dish out the 25,000 that i just had to pay for this year of school... but please, tell me again how spending all your money on something that last an hour and on top of that, if you get caught with it you go to jail is worth it? cause im just not seeing how that is a wise decision on your part...
it seems that its becoming very trendy to flame phw but i have this to say: In one of your first posts you said: **So Remember kids, Bud, shrooms, acid, cocoa puffs good. Crack, Heroin, Pcp, LSD, angel dust, BAD** I have one problem with this, Lsd and acid are the same thing you ass, makes me think you havnt even tried it or any of the many drugs you say you have.
as long as we're on the subject of mind altering drugs, there's an excellent movie that i want to reccomend. it's called Altered States, and it was william hurt's first big movie. it got a lot of awards for make-up effects, which come into the movie after william has done a bunch of this tribal drug based on mushrooms.
i got the DVD at best buy for $9.99 which is a damn good deal. pick it up if you see it.
My thoughts don't count but hey i can express ne way. Natural is the only way i would ever go. Mari-jane and maybe shrooms. but i doubt i would, on the other hand i don't think doing them occasionally is a bad thing. Hell i know more drunk baffoons then pot heads. If ne thing i would stay away from massive amounts of alcohol b4 the once in a while weed high
If all drugs were legal, addicts would no longer pay black-market prices to criminals for drugs of questionable and dangerous origin. They would get drugs produced by legitimate pharmaceutical companies and pay market prices. They would no longer die from buying toxic drugs, and they would no longer have to mug innocent people to support their habits. If all drugs were legal, addicts could seek help by going to doctors – no longer afraid of being prosecuted for their medical problems. If all drugs were legal, criminal drug dealers would no longer be on our streets. They couldn't compete with the low, free-market prices for drugs sold at pharmacies. If all drugs were legal, criminal drug dealers would no longer prey upon our children – any more than distilleries and breweries try to infiltrate schools to hook kids on alcohol. When I grew up in Los Angeles in the 1940s, the worst schools were safer than L.A.'s best schools are today. If all drugs were legal, our government would no longer be dispensing propaganda that makes children want to try the forbidden fruit.
from a artical i saved.
~-=|how many starving people must die at our hands?|=-~ stand up fight back stop waiting while others are die'n ~-=|
ive never done any drugs, smoked cigarettes, or drank alchohol. and rush68, i think that if drugs were legal there wouldnt be half as many people doing them, i think people just want to feel like they are badasses who can be sneaky and do drugs without being caught...
My straight opinion. I have done many drugs (none that are addicting) and know many ppl who do drugs, addicting or not. When it comes to drugs that are not addicting, i say do em if you feel like. Some are worse than others. X being one. Its a drug that you do on occasion, but i cant stand ppl that do it once a week or so. I used to do X a lot, and learned from it. But anyways. For all the addicting drugs, bleh, ive seen what it does to ppl, its horrid. I say smoke bud as much as you want, if you want. LSD, Shrooms, X, and such, do on occasion like once a month IF that. Then again, this is just an opinion.
its heatly *proven slightly* to do shrooms,lsd every 3 months or so BUT THATS IT. lsd is also allmost impossible to o.d on. someone injested something crazy like 300 hits and didn't die.
~-=|how many starving people must die at our hands?|=-~ stand up fight back stop waiting while others are die'n ~-=|
"...and they would no longer have to mug innocent people to support their habits." I disagree with that, people get mugged because alcholics need money to buy booses.
mary jane never did anything bad, alchohol is cool, want to make some cool art? lsd. whatever!the nicest and most generous people i know are pot heads, theyre not all idiots either, the valedictorian at my highschool last year was a mondo hippy pot head so that just goes to show. i quit because of this girl im with. its important to have priorities, if a drug becomes a higher priority then whats important in life, maybe then it time to reconsider.
all you straight people out there should try it before yout it down. because pot heads and junkies laugh at your ignorance. being laughed at by potheads for being stupid is... well, stupid
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The following is an article from this week's 'New Scientist"
Controversy still rages over whether cannabis damages the brain DO DECADES of dope-smoking wreck cannabis users' memory and concentration? Or is this just another anti-marijuana myth? This long running debate reopened this week with the publication of a US government funded study which claims that smoking cannabis daily for 2O years or more impairs memory and attention. Its findings are contradicted by others that have revealed no long-term effects. The latest research involved 102 cannabis smokers in Seattle, Farmington in Connecticut and Miami. Half had smoked for an average of 24 years. The other half, described as "short-term" users, had smoked for 10 years on average. Both groups reported smoking about two joints a day. In tests such as memorising a list of 15 words, the long term users recalled 8.5 words on average, 2.5 fewer than both the short-term users and 31 non-users. The long-term users were also slower at mental arithmetic. But in other tasks, such as sorting cards, they were just as quick. Both groups of users also tended to overestimate the time it took them to complete a task, thinking it had taken them a third longer than it really had. The authors conclude that cannabis has a cognitive effect that lasts beyond the period of intoxication and that the longer you smoke, the worse the effect on memory and attention. "We do not know exactly how that translates into real world problems," admits team member Robert Stephens, a psychologist at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. Nevertheless, he thinks long-term users might not function as well in day-to-day life. But there are other explanations for the results. For example, it was only 17 hours on average since the users had last smoked a joint, and some had smoked just 12 hours earlier. Harrison Pope, a psychiatrist at Harvard Medical School in Boston, says other studies, including one he published last year comparing 108 users with 72 non-users, reveal no long-term effects. One difference, he says, is that his subjects were tested 28 days after they had last smoked. Pope also points out that the subjects in the latest study were all seeking treatment for marijuana dependency, and might have had problems such as anxiety or depression that affected their test scores. Paul Armentano, director of research for the US National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, is even less impressed by the results. "There just doesn't seem to be a large cohort of people suffering these adverse consequences," he says. But even if long-term smokers who give up do not suffer any permanent effects, Pope thinks continual heavy use does have an impact. "We've looked at the lives of these people and how they function. They overwhelmingly rated themselves as less effective and less happy than the control subjects," he says.
I'm 17, I've never done any drugs - in fact I've only smoked like two puffs of a cigarette, and I'm determined not to try it JUST in case, ya know... Well anyways I'm staying clean.
I used to "stay clean" too, never planned to do any drugs either. But I took a second to think about it, to think PAST all the anti-drug propaganda, to why people do it. I thought why do people smoke weed? To escape? To get relief for a while? Sure. When I tried it I didn't do it to escape any stress or anything, I did it just to feel different. I do it a few times a month or so, and I don't feel theres anything wrong with it.
Having done that, I want to move on to mushrooms, unfortunatly my provider couldn't come through for me this friday. Why mushrooms? So I can see things (and life) from another perspective.
It makes me angry to see people that are instantly completely anti-drug because they were told it's the wrong thing to do. Just because someone told them that, they dont give it a second thought?
Well Ive never touched drugs in my life, Ive never smoked a cigarette and never will. I do drink once and a while, and actually agrea that pot is probably better than alchole but its not legal and Ive had to many bad run ins to do with weed.
I have no problem with recreational uses of natural drugs weed, shrooms, and what ever else there is but chemical drugs I am against they are stupid.
As for LSD if you do more than 7 tabs in your life your actually considered legaly insane, most ppl never exseed 5 tabs and LSD never leaves your body, the contents of every tab can be found in your spinal fluid.
---"Humor is the great thing, the saving thing. The minute it crops up, all our irritations and resentments slip away and a sunny spirit takes their place"---
the thing about lsd, is that its true that it never leaves your spine, but not all of it. The chemical eventually crystalizes and traps active fluid inside the spine and habitual users can usually crack thier back or neck and cause the crystals to shift thereby releaseing some stored fluid. This generally cause flashbacks. The flashbacks usually take the user back to a time when he/she used the drug from a previous time. So theres some info on that.
Concerning cocaine: This is by far the most overdramatized drug in the world. Television can be so minipulative when they want to be. Growing up, i always thought that Cocain, Heroin, and so on were just plain stupid because of how society makes it look. Everyone who tried coke for the first time pretty much has the same thought: this is a hell of a lot more mellow than I expected. Its true that it can be very addicting but on the other hand, alot of things in this world are. How about sugar, caffine, alcohol, sex... and so on. I guess my main point is, dont form a final oppion about drugs unless you have facts from every aspect. That includes reading about it, talking to people who have tried it, and finally using it.
Hey Gear, if you're like, serious, I can tell you that I smoked pot for ten years in a row....I still wish I could, but it held me back, 'cause I really didn't give a shit about anything. fortunately I had a trust, so, like now, i don't have to work. I tried mushrooms and lsd in college, had two BAD experiences, won't do that type again, tried coke, liked it, but it's a cash drain. hate meth....you should see what it did to my brother....now i'm addicted to fine wine and prescription downers plus SSRI....lifes what you make it...don't let them tell you any different. make up your own mind.
"LSD does not form "crystals" that reside in the body to be "dislodged" later, causing flashbacks. LSD is a crystalline solid (though it is unlikely that one would ever have enough to be visible to the naked eye) but it is easily water soluble, thus cannot form bodily deposits. Furthermore, it is metabolized and excreted in hours. The bogus "loosened crystal" description in not necessary to explain flashbacks, which are psychological phenomena (see FLASHBACKS)." - from http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq.shtml#myths it would be also good for you to read the flashbacks part about it to understand why they really happen http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq.shtml#flashbacks and one other thing http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml
~-=|how many starving people must die at our hands?|=-~ stand up fight back stop waiting while others are die'n ~-=|
well jesus christ dude, that contradicts everything i had to say about acid. Well im pretty pissed seing as all that informationg that i thought was right i learned in rehab. yes, rehab. how can they give so much misinformation. unless they used outdated information, but thats pretty shitty. Well thanks rush.
