I think everyone eventually has a great realization, almost an epiphany of the fact that backwards time travel is impossible, but here is a fun idea I've been pondering since I was a kid:
Setting: You're walking down the street... eating dinner at a cafe... driving your car... any public setting really works. Anyway, you notice a vaguely familar person that stands out in the croud, and you can't recall where you've seen him/her before. You walk over to the person out of curiousity, and you see they have a clipboard. On the clipboard are notes about you. The person is yourself 30 years in the future, coming back to study yourself in your youth. It's fun to think about, even though I agree it seems impossible for reverse time travel to exist, ever. :)
10:22 pm, Saturday, February 16, 2002 (7 years ago)
im just joking, dont get offended, i just thought it was kinda soon to start a new time travel thread when theres already one going on. Although i think its pretty much dead, so on with this thread!
i love thinking about it, it blows your mind sometimes. our view of time seems rather limited. we view time as a one-dimensional line always going forward at the same rate, and nothing you can do can change that. i'm sure time has more dimensions than just one or two. our minds just cant comprehend anything different. some people say that time is the fourth dimension. well think about this. You are looking at a cartoon in a newspaper, and there is a cartoon guy in a bubble. he can't get out. In his little two-dimensional world, it seems impossible. Look at it from our perspective, in our three-dimensional world. It's incredibly simple. all we have to do is lift him out of his bubble, off the page, then put him back down somewhere else. To everyone in his world, he would have just disappeared, then re-appeared somewhere else. Now apply that to a fourth dimension. Say you are stuck in a cube with no doors or windows. Someone in a "fourth" dimension could easily lift us out of it and put us back somewhere else. The question is... What happens when we are in that other dimension? Just somethin to ponder.
Or what about this - Because of the bone structure in their necks, pigs can't look up, so in order for a pig to see something that exists directly above him, he has to move far away from it and view it from a distance. Does that mean that there is never anything directly above pigs? I think not, but to them it would appear to be a fact. Whatever is directly above him is essentially non-existent to him. He could theorize about the POSSIBILITY of something being up there, but he would never know for sure. This is how I think about time. We see time as a linear dimension but we are probably just limited in our view.
If you went back in time it is forfilling time not changing any change you think you are making you have already made as it was in the past it happened, so the older self would have known that he would be reconized and would have done it differently
havent read the last three posts, but if that was possible how come we dont get visitors from the future in big heaps? like colonies or soemthing? and why dont they demonstrate their superiror intellect to us like theyre supposed to? and anal probe us? and....
well, you get the pic.
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The reality of it that there are an infinite number of alternative universes. And when one goes back in time along a 'track', one must first change to a paralell track. Time travel is only possible through an interacion with a massive time-space deformity. There are various theoretical models. Tipler cylinders, niven rings, cosmic strings and even time storms. Time travel is not prohibited by any of the laws of physics, the energy required however is just plain huge. The most likely candidate for a time shift mission (with todays technology) would be the 'Einstein-Rosen' bridge. The mathematician Roger Penrose compiled the penrose digrams to show how it would be possible to navigate an E-R bridge to past, future, paralell and negative iterations of our current existence. The point is that if one went back in time, one would instantly create a new future for the entire human race from that point forward, one that has 2 you's in it. The second you, could then maniplualte that existence, making it deviate more and more form the original. However, just because u left the previous existence, doesn't mean that everything in that existence ceased to exist, you merely changed 'tracks', and while you could 'allow' the modified existence to move along in paralell to the one u left, it would still be a paralell existence, totally sepereated from and different in nature to the original. It would change more and more as the 2nd you (and noise) modified it. Have a look at infinite paralell universe theory! It is possible to go back in time, but not within the same iteration of the universe. Once time travel bcame viable, it would in fact be possible for 'colonies' to go back in time. In fact, it would definately happen in the distant future as a 'future' human race faces the big crunch! It's just that they wouldn't be able to step onto our branch. In fact, it would be in their interest to actively avoid the cycle/iterration in which they were created. However, having sed that, it is quite possibile for individuals from other paralell existences to step back into this existence. A theoretical model that would quite easily explain how knowledge that was not available in past times is reflected in past writings and structures. I refer of course to things like the piri reis map, prophesies carved in stone in various temples and and and ... there is plenty. Plenty of instances where future knowledge is recorded. Ever wonderd how prophets got a line on the future ? It would be real easy if someone went back in time and told them huh ? Read revelations ... time travel definately !!!! cheerz ! www.cybermike.za.net ps, The fourth dimension is time. I think you would be more accurate in referring to somenone in the 7th ot 10th dimension 'lifting you out of your bubble' I refer to the work of Professor Michio Kaku of N Y State university. Read his book or do a simple web seach using his name, he's very prolific.