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Screenshots editied???

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justaguy1 says:

I wanted to see more linux shots so I checked out some peeps on here and came across RiianF and this screenshot of his

That screenshot has been been modified in a image editing program to scratch out the icons on firefox and the text editor as anyone can clearly see.

Is it ok to photoshop or whatever your shots to get rid of icons or other things, because I don't think you should. It seems ok because people like it as you can see from the comments on that shot. I'm not trying to put him or anyone on the spot but I've noticed others that have done the same.

I just wanna know what exactly customize means because I don't think putting the shot in an editor to change stuff is showing any talent. Even though my shots suck anyway, lol.

08:21 am, Tuesday, January 22, 2008 (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

crap, i can't spell

08:22 am (10 years ago)
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raoul says:

Editing screenshots is a strict nono for us here. Mainly for the reasons you just mentioned, as well it simply being lame. I also think it's lame cos sometimes I try to emulate things from peoples shots.

Maybe people probably didnt pay much attention when commenting that screenshot, or it slipped their attention because of the light colors. Anyway, feel free to post others that are shopped.

P.S. Your shots dont suck :P

09:14 am (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

*Looks real close and down* For crying out loud either my monitor sucks or I'm blind. Most likely both.

That's not cool. Photoshopping screen shots is not okay. I took back my like.

10:40 am (10 years ago)
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theconcept says:

i'm not seeing it - but yea, photoshopping ftl.

12:14 pm (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:



Should be able to see it now.

12:29 pm (10 years ago)
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finch says:

I cant see shit

01:31 pm (10 years ago)
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Thomax says:

lame

02:06 pm (10 years ago)
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swayso says:

oncetime,i found a software can dedetect whether the image is photoshoped or not, i forget the name... : [

02:18 pm (10 years ago)
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qslig says:

WYSIWYG....not always though :p

02:23 pm (10 years ago)
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03:54 pm (10 years ago)
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raoul says:

"http://www.chaosquake.de/files/temp/i-cant-see-shit.jpg:

:lol:

04:16 pm (10 years ago)
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04:54 pm (10 years ago)
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ambulance says:

i cant see shit lol. seriously, i thought my contrast settings were good because i can usually see stuff like this but i still don't see where he photoshopped it out and how you know that he did. could someone explain more than just posting an image?

06:49 pm (10 years ago)
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plain-doh says:

I'm sure you're going to say, "oh, it's that fag PD up to his tricks again lol fuck you," but I have an extremely slight feeling that he may have made his icons like that, or that there was something that screwed up his icons.

10:31 pm (10 years ago)
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uac marine says:

it doesn't look like the obvious ps pixel tool.

10:58 pm (10 years ago)
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plain-doh says:

extremely slight
Could be 1%. And perhaps he wanted them all white, or that in all the skinning it messed up something.

11:12 pm (10 years ago)
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ambulance says:

my monitor must suck but i can BARELY see what you are talking about when i tilt but not enough to make out the details. im with PD however in thinking maybe its just white icons that he had, i dont think he is stupid enough to PS a different color white or whatever when you have that trusty eyedropper tool :p

again tho

11:52 pm (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Guys, it's clearly photoshopped because it's not a perfect square or any shape. There's some stuff outside of the icon area.



I darkened it and changed the contrast so you can see it better. But man, I'm using an old CRT monitor, you guys need to change your settings.

Also: try actually clicking the picture and seeing the full size version.

12:54 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

thanks for clarifying that screenshot image editing being a big "NO NO."

Its a Linux shot, so its most likely he edited it in "The Gimp" the linux version of Photoshop.

Well, i've got some good eyes and good screen, I guess, so thats how I caught it. And I really hate that some people do this type of stuff. He did the same in another shot of his but got the color right and I can't be sure what else is done, but I'm not gonna go there.

Thanks Pyro_ for trying to show everyone a much better look.

There is a zoom function in Linux so I can see things extremely close up almost indefinitely. I thought firefox had a zoom fuction.

@PD and ambulance: what???

01:30 am (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Justaguy1: It is indeed supposed to be prohibited. *cough*adzdebacleyoumust'vemissed*cough* But yeah I know he would've used The Gimp.

I've tried to zoom on images in Firefox, I didn't think it could do that.

And Pd and Ambulance were saying maybe he was using white icons, what they don't seem to get is what I was trying to explain, poorly.

01:45 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@Pyro_: look at some of his other shots, the text editor in this shot as well

Its a little harder to see but its the same as well.

Basically all the firefox and text editors in his shots are "Gimped"

Yeah, I missed that adz stuff, don't know anything about it, but I do see what everyone has been saying.

Just plain Sad :(

02:10 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@Pyro_: i misunderstood you last about the zoom in firefox, if you didn't see it, there is an addon that adds that function

I'm thinking you were able to do it, I'm really slow today, haha.

02:17 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

sorry this is the firefox addon that i was thinking about

02:25 am (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Yeah besides not having zoom, and having a bad monitor I also have bad eyesight. So I'm not surprised I never spotted any of them.

But holy heck those extensions look useful, thanks a ton. :)

I think everyone ought to install it for Custo Police usage.

03:58 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

Justaguy1 passes Pyro_ a new monitor and contacts. :)

I personally don't need the zoom in firefox cause my wm takes care of that already. But yeah, you're welcome.

Custo Police, hehe.

@Raoul: I agree about trying to emulate someone's shot and them having been edited their shots screws that up. Thats how I stumbled on his mischievousness.

I'm really gonna be suspect of most shots now. :(

12:00 pm (10 years ago)
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finch says:

@Pyro_: The second image you produced was better. I can clearly see it now !

12:29 pm (10 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

There are more adzes in the world than there are Chuck Norris victims. And that's sad.

09:58 pm (10 years ago)
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excess says:

@adz: so u can see shit, ya?

11:35 pm (10 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

Also, in defense of him (yeah feel free to murder me for this):

Perhaps he was just scared you guys would beat him up for "default icons", as is the case I've seen around here, and decided to not take the risk and cover them up. Just saying.

Again, feel free to murder me for this.

12:33 am (10 years ago)
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Photoshopping your screenshots to change the way things look on your screen is bad. Don't do it.

12:52 am (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Heh, I have glasses, but thanks to my cat biting them I have to look through blur marks.

I'm glad it's visible now.

Mini, either way it's not okay I dunno if you can reshack in Linux but I'm quite sure you can change them somehow.

01:17 am (10 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

No, luckily you can't reshack in linux. But usually it involves recompiling from source, which is a huge pain. (it = changing icons)

01:22 am (10 years ago)
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plain-doh says:

I think I faintly see the icons in the second screenshot, so yeah, I believe you guys now.

Adz popping in was funny :D

01:24 am (10 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

You mean adz popping in is funny.

It never gets old for me. :)

01:34 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@Pyro_: no reshack (whatever it is) in linux, hehe, much easier for linux just simply become root and change the icons in its folder to blank ones or to go even further just delete them, you won't get an error.

To go even further than that, you can completely delete all icons in the linux system, hehe, once again no errors

And even further like m1n1mal said, you could just compile them with any changes your heart desires.

@m1m1mal: i don't think compiling is pain, when you get use to it , just like anything, it becomes quite easy over time.

10:48 am (10 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

Compiling is a pain when you realize you are missing 5 billion libraries, you have to wait about 3 hours to download and install them all, and then another hour just to configure. :P

02:58 pm (10 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Delete ... every icon ... no errors ....

*Drool*

So yeah, it's just like when windows user's photoshop the shot 'cause they were lazy and didn't blank out the icons.

04:24 am (10 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@m1n1mal: you don't have broadband??? It would really suck to do any downloading on anything less. And I would like to see what you're compiling that has so many dependecies. I compile almost everything, at least my kernel is compiled which takes about an hour. I love doing that stuff though.

@Pyro_: "Delete...every icon..no errors..." , Yup. In the linux OS, if the path to a icon points to nothing, it simply shows nothing.

Example: if I wanted my window selector to show no icons of 20x20 pixmaps, I would locate the folder which in my case is /usr/share/pixmaps and remove them or change them to whatever I wanted. Or simply change the path so that it points to nothing.

09:21 am (10 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

I'm on broadband yes. And it's been a long time since I've messed with anything, but firefox, thunderbird, xmms come to mind :P

But nevermind, I just realized most of everything I had to compile that had a ton of dependencies was usually stuff like irssi...

netpkg ftw

02:00 pm (10 years ago)
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popupkilla says:

Paint shop pro is better for stuff like this. Got the eyedropper thing. That or the clone brush.

10:29 pm (9 years ago)
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Hoodylum says:

The thing which bugs me here is that isnt RiianF a well known customizer I went through is gallery and he has some cool screenies. Or maybe all of them has this and I just didnt notice

04:29 pm (9 years ago)
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plain-doh says:

This is why you should edit shots on an LCD, so you can tilt it and make sure you get it right XD

07:11 pm (9 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@ m1n1mal: oddly, i haven't compiled any of those except firefox, lol. I don't use any of the others, just xmms once. But firefox was actually quite an ease on my system.

@popupkilla and plain-doh: I really hope you guys are kidding around.

@Hoodylum: I found at least 3 shots of his that have been altered. Anyone is capable of doing this no matter how well known.

10:08 pm (9 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Yeah seriously do you really think you guys should be giving TIPS on editing screen shots.

I don't even know how these things should be dealt with anymore.

10:57 pm (9 years ago)
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raoul says:

"I don't even know how these things should be dealt with anymore."

I think just pointing them out will be enough shame :P

11:39 pm (9 years ago)
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excess says:

Obviously not enough shame for Adz.

11:50 pm (9 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

Adz is the new chuck norris.

11:54 pm (9 years ago)
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raoul says:

Lol, see? This is what I meant. There's no need for a tarring and feathering in the 21st century, is there?

12:03 am (9 years ago)
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popupkilla says:

I'm sorta half kidding, anyone using litestep in a screenie, due to the nature of the popup, may have a hard time showing some other elements properly, I PSP'ed my shot, hence the two pointers, which nobody seemed to notice. And besides, why not everyone give the member some tips @justaguy1, I see your linux info and it looks like that may help, It's none of my business how you spend your time but it's kind of sad spending so much time hunting for evidence of someones "no-no's" .
Heck everyone here may be able to lend some insight on how not to do this instead of why not. His shots cool except for the smudge, which also went pretty much unnoticed in the reviews, I know there are some great talents on this site, and I really find it hard to belleve that none of the top 20 skinners here altered a screenshot in one way or another. Lets be real. They just didn't get caught.

03:27 am (9 years ago)
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plain-doh says:

Lol, see? This is what I meant. There's no need for a tarring and feathering in the 21st century, is there?



"In one of three messages, one of them referred to her as "dirty" and threatened to burn her house down and tar and feather her."

03:56 am (9 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@popupkilla: I really don't know what to say to you. Your response has got me scratching my head. First of all, I didn't go around looking for photoshopped screenies, I was looking for other linux shots and saw his editing like plain day. Secondly, you just confessed to photoshopping, wtf. Thirdly, WTF???

Can someone shed some light here, because I think I'm loosing my hair from scratching too much.

05:40 am (9 years ago)
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Hoodylum says:

justaguy - Ya i saw the screens altered with my own eyes and thats what bugs me is that why did he do it of all the people - He had a good rep around here and many looked upto him. And moreover I noticed the peculiar way of removing icons - If he being such a good custoer he shud know atleast how to properly remove a icon not just make sum uneven white blotches.

popupkilla - Thats some interesting point and you got me thinkin too..

01:09 pm (9 years ago)
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Hoodylum says:

hate my net sometimes arrgh double post

01:10 pm (9 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@Hoodylum: When you get older and more experienced in life, you will find out that the majority of people are not what they seem. It's really sad that a person has to come here and falsify some shots just to get a rep. Just plain sad.

You know what, I'm gonna find a program or get some of my friends to make one so we can strip each image of it's embedded code and layers to sniff out all these shots, so that even the ones that photoshopped good get found out. I recall having a program like that before.

02:11 pm (9 years ago)
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form says:

Some people photoshop their screenshots as to remove information that they don't want shown on customize. There are other, legitimate reasons for photoshopping. While I don't condone it for the sake of changing your original shot, I do think it's quite a bit childish to drag it out to the point that you believe yourself "the photoshop task force"

All I can say is, honestly, you must be extremely bored and have nothing better to do. :)

02:57 pm (9 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

I agree with form.

As a result of the victims hurt by this incident, I'll call the FBI and have them arrest RiianF on charges of...omg...PHOTOSHOPPING.

RiianF: Whatever you say can be used against you in a court of law. You do understand this?

We must rid the world of these foul photoshopping beasts.....they must be annihilated!!

Actually that would be nice, since that includes adz...

And apparently screenshots are like more important than rembrandts or something....gotta make sure they aren't photoshopped or anything...

03:02 pm (9 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

@form: if you don't want stuff in a screenshot don't put it in the screenshot, there was no point there.

If photoshopping a screen doesn't bother you then don't use this site and become best friends with that ADZ guy everyone talks about. Otherwise it should be at the top of your list, because this site is based around customizing and showing your talents. If you like being mislead, then you're gonna have a hard time in life.

If you think otherwise, you word is no better than those that have done the deeds.

"A man fears sought and will defend the least action." --Da Vinci

Apparently photoshopping a shot is ok. Thread closed.

05:31 pm (9 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

Lolwhut? Who said photoshopping is ok? That's the exact thing I knew you would say...The only thing I was saying is there's no point in dragging it on and making it such a huge crime. Screenshots are kool and all, but I just don't see them at the level of importance or 'honor' as some people tend to place them at.

I like how you connect this to 'life' too.

06:53 pm (9 years ago)
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capitalizex says:

You guys are stupid.

Photoshoping is photoshoping and it's one of the biggest issues here. It has been since the very beginning.

Why would you accuse him of being "the photoshop police?" It kind of disgusts me that you guys are arguing with him about bringing another guy who's trying to falsely gain fame out to the public.

To the argument that it's just a screenshot is just absurd.

Yes, it's only a screenshot but aren't we missing the point here? Screenshots are to show off what you can do via reshacking, skinning, etc, etc. Taking the brush tool and blurring your icons out totally defeats the whole point.

It's the principal of the matter.

I'm not saying we should hang him in the gallows but bringing it to the publics attention is what should be done. It's for your sake and the websites reputation. If you want to be fooled, then I don't know what to tell you.

Something like this to me is considered a warning shot, for all of you to look at further submitted material from the same user with a closer eye.

08:30 pm (9 years ago)
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capitalizex says:

Oh, and the threads not closed till I say it's closed.

08:30 pm (9 years ago)
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raoul says:

I agree with Capitalzex. Most importantly though, with this bit, because Custo is supposed to be a community, and not a place for pettyness. Imo, there's a way that everything can be handled so that no harm is done to anybody ^^

"I'm not saying we should hang him in the gallows but bringing it to the publics attention"

09:47 pm (9 years ago)
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Thomax says:

I agree with Capx too. There's something i need to know, are we allowed to just copy/paste a litestep popup into a shot? just to show off how the active state of the taskbar button looks like. I have done this, but i was told that i was ok. I just want to know what other people think about this.

10:08 pm (9 years ago)
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Pyro_ says:

Capx put it very well, I agree.

However the topic of including a popup or whatever and blurring personal information like IP and such as already been dealt with.

As long as you're not changing the way your system displays i.e. removing icons and crap it's okay. We don't want to be so strict as to like Cap said hang 'em in the gallows.

Because when something is used properly it's okay. When something is abused it's not okay. And we've all seen how things on this site and in your shots can be abused.

Also: I apologize if I'm less coherant than usual. I've barely slept over the last few days and had no coffee. I typed it out as best as I could.

10:29 pm (9 years ago)
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capitalizex says:

thom, that would be completely straight in my opinion due to the fact that i know it's a pain in the ass to try to right click and show an active state of some sort of window.

10:53 pm (9 years ago)
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raoul says:

Im sorry Pyro, but come again? All that went over my head. :P






:halo:

10:59 pm (9 years ago)
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plain-doh says:

Pyro never sleeps. Live with it...

11:01 pm (9 years ago)
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form says:

Justaguy1: I never once said that photoshopping is OK. In fact, I said exactly the opposite. But if you take a screenshot of your desktop while IRC, aim, or some such is visible, you want to show your modified mIRC, or miranda but not your friends, sure, throw it in photoshop and blur the names out. In fact, when I take a screenshot, I paste it into photoshop and save it from there.

My point was is that you can't prove that someone photoshopped their screenshot simply by the fact that they used photoshop in saving the file.

My other point was is that you should honestly get over yourself and quit trying to dramatize such a petty practice.

It could be handled in a better way without all of the hyperactive drama and prolonged petty b****ing.

02:26 am (9 years ago)
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popupkilla says:

I'm glad m1n1mal and Pyro and form are making sense, and having a sense of humor about it. Sit back and take a breath and I think you will agree, this is no big f****ing deal. Life's too short for this stuff folks. I really don't think zooming and sharpening and increasing contrast and tilting your monitor on every new screenshot just to see if some rules are being followed is fun. But hey, that;s me. And justaguy1, your screenies far from suck man. Happy hunting everyone.

02:27 am (9 years ago)
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popupkilla says:

wow that was weird. I only pressed submit once. Maybe it's a bug, please notify every admin. NOW!!!

02:29 am (9 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

I'm not saying we should hang him in the gallows but bringing it to the publics attention is what should be done.

Uh...that's what was done in the first place? That's great and all, but as popup said...why get all worked up, post 15 billion pictures of the "evidence" with saturation and contrast adjusted, and then continue to make it a huge deal? Seriously, I know some people don't have lives, but this... :P

And it would be fun to see some of your guys serious faces typing your lengthy essays on how this kind of behavior deserves capital punishment, and how we are sitting here denying that Photoshopping screenshots is bad.

Yes, it happened. Get over it. It's not like it'll do much to stop it again...adz is living proof.

02:38 am (9 years ago)
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form says:

Pyro: That's exactly what I mean, but I suppose I'm not as elegant with my wording. What Justaguy was stating is that he's going to start scanning images for having been edited or used in photoshop, so I was pointing out the fact that photoshop isn't always abused, or always used for falsification of a gain of reputation.

Just a thought. :)

02:45 am (9 years ago)
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capitalizex says:

and yeah...m1n1mal i think you missed the point of the statement. Hanging him in the gallows refers to the over reaction in this thread along with every other. Telling people to take it as what it is and take note that this user is capable of, and does, photoshop his screens.

And damn, you getting lippy with me?

"Seriously, I know some people don't have lives, but this... :P"

I really hope that wasn't directed towards me or else i'd just have to call you a twat. Considering I only pop my head in to try to straighten out the heavily retarded text some of you kids type out. (Not directed towards anyone, just in case someone feels like throwing a girl fit.)

"And it would be fun to see some of your guys serious faces typing your lengthy essays on how this kind of behavior deserves capital punishment, and how we are sitting here denying that Photoshopping screenshots is bad."

I agree. It would be funny, maybe I'll start on the death penalty for it. For each pixel you fake, a member of your family is taken from you.

I also find it funny that because some people are descriptive with their writing, you assume that they have no lives. Have you ever thought, maybe some of us know how to write?

Before you go accusing people of having no lives, just remember you're also sitting here bitching in your computer chair.

07:03 am (9 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

When I first came to this site I was amazed and overwhelmed at the amount of others that were interested in the computer hobbyist arena whom enjoyed modifying their systems. For me, coming across the aforementioned shots just kind of blew those impressions away and made me think otherwise. Which I then made the decision to bring this to the other customizers attention.

Anyway, whether it was dragged out or not, I feel quite strongly about this and I see that a FEW others agree as well and are pleased that I didn't keep this under the bridge.

So, as capitalizex has nicely summed things up, I'm satisfied with the concern and I think I'm gonna see if I can join a "sense of humor class" or something. :)

02:50 pm (9 years ago)
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m1n1mal says:

K first that wasn't directed at anyone, it was just general. I just find it interesting to watch some people so worried about something of such small importance, they get all worked up about it and then get ticked off extremely fast (NO I'm not talking about you) at others if anyone lets a word slip in their direction. I just have a tendency to see that as the lack of a life.

Before you go accusing people of having no lives, just remember you're also sitting here bitching in your computer chair.

K, there's a big difference. I'm sitting here, not caring about a thing, just trying to point out 1) I'm acknowledging the guy did photoshop his screenshot, 2) I'm acknowledging it's BAD, 3) I'm acknowledging it shouldn't be done, 4) I'm trying to point out we should stop acting like it's the end of the world, doomsday, apophis, 12/11/2012, etc...

I think you're missing my point as well. I'm not trying to insult or direct any of my statements to anyone. All I'm trying to say is this is too much over too little.

Let's assume he does it again, photoshop a screenshot. What'll happen? At the most, it'll get a few likes by a few folks with no eyesight, then one of you will write a 2 page long comment on how he's an idiot and how he should stop photoshopping, and then it'll just get buried along with all the adz stuff.

For me, coming across the aforementioned shots just kind of blew those impressions away and made me think otherwise.

Why? You're saying he's also not interested? I would beg to differ. I'm sure he cares a great deal, otherwise he wouldn't go through the trouble of using a "minimalistic" theme and "custoing" his desktop. Let's say he used the color picker tool and made the blotches invisible. I bet a lot of you who are now attacking him and me furiously would like/love his screenshot.

I like how some people think customizing means destroying every single trace of an icon, removing functionality, and completely obliterating usability. Again, not targeted to anyone, but I'm just speaking in general. I've had these discussions with a lot of people. I've seen a friend get attacked (no not on this site, luckily) because he supposedly had too many icons in his systray. The advice given? Hide it. And he's a full-time developer (has been for 10+ years) and he NEEDS his system notification area (the actual name of the systray, emphasis on notification...how are you supposed to be notified if you hide the systray? Before someone starts on me because I've hidden it in a few of my last screenshots, its because xoblite's sysbar is history in bb4, so the only sane way to have a systray is using a second plugin, which I have set to auto-hide. And yes, I get notifications and balloon tooltips.).

Anyway, again, I'm not directing this at anyone, just speaking in general. I just found it apalling and slightly amusing that some of you guys are holding such a straight face about this and spewing cuss words and crap at the other side, who's just sitting there trying to get a point through to you, without the need for insults. NO, I'm not a girl, I'm not even the slightest offended by anything. But it's just interesting to note the contrast in language, seriousness, and, if I dare say so, emotion.

This isn't necessarily like watching the cartoons on saturday morning, but it isn't the equivalent of talking about nuking apophis either. All I'm saying is at least try not to spontaneously combust on this? I appreciate discussion and debate, but it quickly gets one-sided when the other side throws a fit.

Anyway, just to clarify again so no one mistakes me for defending him, I am NOT defending him for anything he did, in fact I'll say this - HE needs a life for even caring about those icons, or photoshopping them. If I were him, I'd just let those "default" icons slip and not care the slightest about being attacked for them, because frankly, it doesn't even matter.

Sure, this is an essay too, but I felt it was necessary. Feel free to attack me for being a hypocrite or something.

03:33 pm (9 years ago)
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capitalizex says:

Meh, I cuss in explanations. Not at people, usually.

08:46 pm (9 years ago)
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justaguy1 says:

it just may be the end of the world, hehe :P

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form says:

All in all, no hard feelings I hope. I agree with the general opinion that no one wants to be deceived. I tend to put more emphasis on the feelings of people and 'why' they do things, rather than just depicting them as a representation of 'what' they did.

Everyone in this community is perfectly accustomed to helping others. If they weren't, I would never have been able to customize to the small extent that I do.

Since we already follow that philosophy, why not, instead of bashing people that want to fit in, but don't know how to customize, point out to them that this website is full of answers to their questions.

And hey, if they don't WANT to spend the time to do it correctly, then they don't deserve to be here.

I just believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt.

11:29 pm (9 years ago)
 
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